Thanks for putting on this great show and making its material availabile. This mind body would very much enjoy it if you decided do some more of these.

I think there are many people that would love to listen to and participate in this show if there were knowlege of it happening. In the case here, awareness of the show only happened after it was finished. Its likely that if you keep going this will become a worldwide broadcast treasure in terms of the message of the one.

Regards,

Forest
Colorado, US

GOD backwards is DOG.
Or DOG backwards is GOD
and DEVIL backwards is LIVED
Don’t know where this is going . . . but I can feel a toon coming on!

Cameron, i miss your sense of humour . . . :)

the last advaita show was april . . . It’s amazing this thread is still active!

(DVB-H: digital Video broadcast is mobile broadband > TPN Videopodcast-broadcasts onto your mobile as a potential application)

… I am just bullshitting pal :-)

Helen in LA

pun=the lowest form of humor. But I love them.

If you ever start up the show again Cameron don’t bother with the questions I posted before. Goodluck with the podcast network. I checked out the Father Bob show, when you said “Jesus was the Wolverine of his time then?” it was priceless.

there is no independent entity here? Maybe. But the patternings of our personalities and natures are different from each other. Something or someone is calling the shots of how the person called “Mark” lives and decides and acts.

Many other religioius/spiritual teachers teach that “God gave us free will”.

Exactly how is there no free will in your life Cam? And no snappy answers about how there’s no independent entity to have a will! Examples please!

Cameron
I am trying to get the ‘no free will’ stuff, there is agreement on a profound level. It just seems tuff, in my environment to let go when your pulled down all the time…

Hold on, if there is no free will, then does that mean that no individual has an issue with it? Since there is no individual and things are just happening. Man, that just sounds like the entire thing is against me or against itself… duality has a problem with it, not the singular non-thing? That kind of makes sense… if we were all homo then how could this go on? Oh… right, it’s not going on.

I now see the appeal of hardcore drugs.

Marcelo

p.s. that was a joke

Thanks Cam I will

No free will dude. No individual to have free will.

No special thing you need to do to hang with his bobness, just ring and make an appointment. Call me when you get here: 0400455334.

Sorry if I was insensitive. I never meant any harm and often have trouble putting myself into another’s shoes. I write down many quotes as reminders and one of them is what a co-worker once told me, “You know Richard, sometimes you can be a real jerk.”

I have three sons, now adults, one of whom I thought, for some time, might possibly be gay. And later when I met some of his friends, I know some of them were, so this reinforced my thoughts about him.

We never discussed his sexual tendencies, nor did it make any difference to me. Of the three, he is the nicest and the one I most like hanging out with. Of course, I love them all.

A non tolerant attitude is, I think, a result of insecurity. All parents are amateur parents. I may also be insecure, but it doesn’t show up in that way.

Someone whom I spoke with had visited Bob, attended the public meetings and also private sessions. They say it was originally arranged through Gilbert Schultz. You are fortunate to have that opportunity.

Best wishes,
Richard

I get the whole no free will stuff now. Thanks to Cam actually, I am starting to lighten up alot… so thanks Cam! I reckon Cam should do a Aussie translation for I am That.

I do get a lot more than I can say, or write!

Especially when I get quiet, there is no need for explanations. I am also not trying to ‘get it’ when I’m not quiet- like Cam said… just riding the wave.

Although I heard the word poofy once form Cam, I mean seriously Cam… is it the eighties still?

Can anyone tell me if I need to do something to hang with El Bobness? Do I need to call, or e-mail to sit in on one of his talks?

I am moving to Melbourne for work In July.

Thanks
Marcelo

Yes i would like the Advaita Show to restart….It will at just the right time (if it ever does)
All is Well and unfolding as it should.
With gratitude from Bournville, UK
Steve P

regards

p.s WHEN DOES THE ADVAITA SHOW RE-START ???? DOESN’T ANYONE ELSE CARE???????

Glad you found what you needed. This isn’t the first time someone asked for advice and then criticised me for giving it. Although your question contained guidelines for responders, my opinions, when requested, can’t be contained. I’m a compassionate avadhoot and my roses often contain thorns.

My comment about perpetuating the species was meant in a humorous way.

If I ask for advice, I take whatever applies and drop the the rest, appreciative that someone would care enough to respond. But I realize, everyone doesn’t think as I do. My wife of 36 years says I’m from another planet.

Hope all is well with you and yours.

Loved the “Melbourne Talks”. That expensive digital recorder provided a very clear rendering, as did that ole sailor guy. Fine job and congratulations to no-one.

And I used the term ‘Gay’ because its common. My desires aren’t ‘gay’ but they seem to allow men. And whats the deal with why men are attractive or not, and perpetuating species crap? Who’s being too serious now?

but thanks anyway.

Gangaji speaks to things of a personal nature. You could write her a letter (not e-mail). http://www.gangaji.org is her website.

Many on, or finished with, the spiritual path are householders, married, and probably have sex. On this site there are Bob and Cameron who are married (not to each other). Others are Nisargadatta, Papaji, Gangaji, Aurobindo, and so on.

I don’t see how anyone, a woman or a gay man, can find men attractive. Why the species has perpetuated is beyond me. And why the term ‘gay’? Does this make the rest of us morose?

Anyway, best of wishes to you. Don’t be too tough on yourself or take yourself too seriously. Nisargadatta said, “Be who you are and don’t be who you are not.”

You question seems perfectly reasonable. I don’t claim to be the last word on this issue, but here it goes…

Seeking doesn’t mean that all attachments go away. Self-realization is spontaneous action without attachment. BUT if it is your nature, your part, to be homosexual, then why should it go away? It is no different than being heterosexual, or a celibate. If it is not in your nature, it will drop away. Things are as they should be. Of course we could have a go at what you mean by “I”.

Feel free to post your question on AdvaitaNow..
http://groups.google.com/group/AdvaitaNow

Could anyone point me too someone? Please, no high and mighty-ness. I seem to get that any time i ask.

I’ve probably asked a stupid question… but we homo’s get no help.

m

Excellent advice from Cameron.

Also, you can call Bob (and other teachers) on the telephone.

In addition, there’s a link on these pages for AdvaitaNow. You may have already posted on that web group site, I’m not sure. Anyway you can post your question there and will get a variety of responses, some wise, some humorous. And you can take what presently applies and makes sense to you, and set down the rest.

“The Self is always realized. Look within and be still.”___Ramana Maharshi

Who is to “define the me?”

Corey points out that intellectual understanding is crap. Painted cakes. Menu not the meal.

The idea that ’someone’ can ‘discover that there is no one’ is just idiocy. if there is nothing and no one WHO is going to lOOK? You cannot have it both ways. That is sloppy and misleading and brings only frustration, in the experience here of all this.

The idea that ’someone’ can make or do some sort of full stop is the insanity that a false identity can see through itself! Oneness itself, and only oneness itself, can drop the idea of a ‘me’ … the intellect, bright and clear to itself, in it’s clarity, CLAIMS ITS OWN ABSENCE. Clarity that there is no person has nothing to do with the actuality of BEING no person.

It’s a someone claiming to be no one. a subtle felt sense of an entity that now whispers (or shouts) “I have got it now … this is IT … I am free …”

Pure unadulterated ignorance. Sorry guys. It’s crap … and that delusion of having ‘gotten the Big IT” will go … and when it does, you will want to kill yourself because “you” had it and “you” lost it… paradise lost, and then “much weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Listen to this from Oneness … if ‘you’ dare … Oneness will murder you if and when It does. Meanwhile you will claim to “know oneness” and that claim will go on protecting you from the murderr’s knife. And that too is the Play of Oneness.

“The Open Secret message turns the whole idea of personal endeavor and attainment on its head.

This is a * non-prescriptive communication that does not compromise the seeker with offers of being able to gain permanent peace, joy and the end of suffering. *

This clear and simple message speaks of a revolutionary perception where all traditional ideas and even contemporary teachings of becoming something better or different collapse. Its illumination is in the energetic, vibrant aliveness that is implicit in the wonder and liberation of simply being.

It requires no effort and demands no standards. Being timeless, there is no path and no debt to pay. When this is heard and confusion is no more, the contraction of struggling to ‘get something’ falls away, and the one constant boundless energy of being aliveness is celebrated as all there is. ”

Tony Parsons - June 2006 … http://www.theopensecret.com

In The Oneness, There is no one. Nothing ever happened. All is appearance. Etc.

Perhaps. BUT … Believing that is the curse of the false clarity and will make for a big crash and burn … This one has been there, people. Over and over.

There is NO HOPE, fellas. NONE. No matter ho hard or how smart you work at it, no matter hoe earnestly and sincerely you look, you will never catch your own tail.

Are you trying to tell me that you, Richard, didn’t type the above comment? Somewhere, there is a guy named Richard typing on a computer. Richard and the computer may be made up of Intelligence Energy, but if that’s completely outside our experience, then why is it significant?

I would love for my looking for a reference point to prove fruitless, but they don’t. The reference point is right here at this computer and it’s me. If you or anyone has some more specific advice on how to free myself of this I’d love to hear it.

thanks,
corey

Until then, just an observance, maybe correct or not: In the above you say, “I don’t do the group thing”, “I’d love to talk with”, “I need to do more exploring”, “outside of OUR experience”, etc.

You seem to be identifying with the mind/body mechanism which needs to explore, which has things outside its experience, and so forth. Maybe that’s ‘your’ difficulty?

I guess I need to do more exploring of where the center is. Unfortunately I’ve found all inquiry into the “I am” to be fruitless. The “I am” seems to be the proof of separateness, of individuality. If all is inteligence energy, but we can never see, hear, touch or even intellectualize it, what is the point of giving a shit about it? Many times my studies into Advaita make me think “So What!”

Water is actually not water, it’s Hydrogen and Oxygen mixed together. With this knowledge do you feel free or enlightened? Of what importance is it if it’s external or outside our experience?

Sorry about the rant, I didn’t know it was coming.

thanks,
corey

Good point.